, ) we (.) voted Brexit .h but (.) clearly there are some people who (.) .h and I still don't understand why you would want to be part of a club .h that has said it wants >one president one currency one finance minister one army< .hh you don't agree with those things

. Le-danger-de-se, au sein d'une super-structure, d'un super-État ou même d'un État fédéral européen, constitue l'autre pan d'un avenir cauchemardesque possible, fréquemment évoqué dans le Nigel Farage Show. Nigel Farage dédie même une émission entière, p.207

, à la question d'un État fédéral européen, les « États-Unis d, Nigel Farage: >goo:d evening everybody thank you Donald< .h well! Martin Schulz (.) and I, vol.208

, Schulz as being (.) a complete political fanatic uhm and in my view a very very dangerous man (.) uhm an obsessive a complete believer (.) in (.) the European project BUT (.) at least (.) he's always (.) told the truth and ((he chuckles)) never ever more so .h than today when at the (.) conference the party conference of the social-democrats .h he said that he's now committed to building a United States of Europe by twenty twenty five he wants to have (.) .h a new (.) constitutional treaty. he wants to put it to all the member states in a referendum .h and any that reject it simply (.) get (.) kicked out so that's where he wants to go .h and he's not alone in this (.) Mr Verhofstadt (.) who of course is the European Parliament chief negotiator he's very much in favour (.) of a United states of Europe .h and on the Ian Dale show (.) we had that great friend of mine Lord Heseltine (.) who when Ian asked him did he support the United States of Europe said yes! (.) (.) hasn't told us that for the last fifty years has he he's kept that quiet! (.) for the last fifty years uh and I (.) have to say (.) that whenever I hear people say well of course .h Brexit only won (.) because of the great lie of three hundred and fifty million a week (.) that was on Boris's bus (.) .h I respond to that by saying actually for fifty years virtually every major politician in Britain has lied to us (.) deliberately willfully lied to us about the true nature of the European project they knew way back (.) from the days of Heath that this was about creating a superstate. .h with one government and one currency .h and they could never ever admit it goodness me!, Germany >he didn't become the biggest party in the election Germany Angela Merkel did< BUT (.) it now looks like another grand coalition in Germany .h with Merkel as chancellor and Schulz will be (.) almost certainly (.) the vice-chancellor (.) in Germany. now .h I've always

, Nigel Farage s'attaque à différentes personnalités européennes (Martin Schulz, Guy Verhoftstadt) qui personnifient quelque peu l'entité dont il parle, Comme on le voit ici au fil de ses tirades

, On souligne ici que l'expression, ironiquement, a été elle-même employée par Winston Churchill dans un discours à Zurich en 1946 en vue de renforcer la coopération européenne ; l'exemple a été mis en avant par les partisans du maintien pendant la campagne pour le référendum (voir à ce sujet « Old Man in A Hurry »). Mais le discours eurosceptique s'est également approprié l'expression, comme dans fiction dystopique (et eurosceptique) The United States of Europe, vol.23

N. Farage,

. Shaun, get a general feel sometimes with the younger youth have got nothing to do other than to listen to people like this because it gives them hope and I think u:hm we're just not doing enough we're shutting down community centres (.) there's a lot different things that Theresa May is putting forward that's causing issues

N. Farage, hh is I think irresponsible immigration policies and lack of immigration has in fact bred an environment in which there are many (.) parts of the Muslim countr-uh population in this country living in areas with the lowest levels of employment etc and they are (.) they are environments in which bad ideologies can take off .h but I mean the trouble is (.) that's something we got wrong, vol.17, p.3

, occasion d'une émission consacrée au sort des individus suspectés de liens avec des organisations terroristes (il faut là encore noter la remarque réflexive du présentateur qui se met discrètement en valeur) : Nigel Farage: and look folks! .h I'm beginning to sound a bit like a softie on this show tonight I'm not! It was me in twenty fourteen who said publicly .h I felt we had a fifth column living (.) within our country people (.) who are born here raised here .h have our passports and yet (.) wish to destroy our way of life wish to kill us I mean you'd have thou:ght (.) you'd have thought I was the most evil person .h that had lived on European soil for seventy five years but daring .h even (.) to say this I am not soft on this subject. .h but I have to say I do disagree fundamentally with Omar .h if wewere you know not everyone of those twenty thousand (.) is a terrorist all right some of them (.) sadly (.) are but if you release people's identities goodness only knows

. De-fait, ». La-menace-djihadiste-est-explicitement-identifiée-comme-le-danger-qui-met-en-péril-«-l&apos;occident, N. Farage-le-remarque-dans-l&apos;extrait, and . Suivant, Nigel Farage: whatever our differences with Putin may be and yes they are substantial .h there is one issue on which I believe we're absolutely on the same side. and this issue (.) is the biggest threat that we on the West face (.) as a challenge to our way of life (.) our security indeed our happiness (.) and that is the threat of Isis and radical (.) islamic (.) terrorism. that's the biggest threat we face Craig (.) and I think that on that issue we have to recognise that we and Putin have a shared interest in dealing with this. and that's my argument Craig and, vol.17, p.3

, Cet ennemi juré devient par la suite l'un des arguments privilégiés de Nigel Farage dans sa confrontation à d'autres adversaires idéologiques : Nigel Farage: [...] for those of you .h who (.) uh feel (.) that you're global citizens who are upset uh by what is going on here remember this isn't just Trump one in three countries in the world (.) since the Berlin wall fell have actually started to put up barriers .h fences walls of some kind, Il se dégage de cette réflexion une vision fondamentalement essentialiste des rapports entre les peuples, là encore figée entre un « nous » aux fondamentaux à protéger (« we in the West »), et un adversaire redoutable, le terrorisme islamique, vol.17, pp.0-5

, Robert: exactly! exactly Nigel and not only that! I say more astonishing was David Davies' performance today! he said he had fifty-eight documents (.) the effects of Brexit, vol.17

, Nigel Farage consacre ainsi une émission entière 240 à la position des travaillistes. À sa manière, il semble alors que Nigel Farage quitte un temps ses habits de présentateur radio pour retourner dans l'arène politique, en tant qu'ancien dirigeant du parti UKIP, dont un certain nombre d'électeurs sont d'anciens partisans travaillistes désabusés. Comme on le voit dans les extraits suivants, notamment le premier, Nigel Farage n'hésite pas à appuyer sur les contradictions (historiques) du positionnement travailliste sur la question de l'Union européenne : Nigel Farage: to me (.) the story that everyone's been missing here completely .h here is the real reason (.) that the government lost. .h the real reason that Parliament will now have a veto uh if there is a deal at the end of the process .h is that actually (.) it's the Labour party that has been through the big transformation. now look during the election Corbyn played it remarkably (.) he appealed to leave voters in the Midlands in the North and South Wales by saying (.) in the manifesto ab-solutely >very very clearly< that Britain supported leaving the EU leaving the single market and ending freedom of movement what could be clearer? and yet sort of nudge nudge wink wink in London and the South and elsewhere really don't worry you know Labour are the ones that will fight uh to keep European values and perhaps even uh some form of membership of the single market so he's got away with it!, Ce discours populiste distingue ses adversaires politiques directs, ceux dont le parti UKIP a réussi à détourner les électeurs déçus, au premier rang desquels le Parti travailliste

. Bennite, the House of Commons .h since nineteen eighty-three (.) but (.) given that vote (.) given our old friend Tony Blair! now out there this weekend saying .h that Labour should prioritize stopping Brexit .h ahead of winning (.) the next election .h the question I wanna ask you this morning is has Labour no:w (.) become (.) a remain (.) party. (F:17.12, Jim: good evening to you Nigel Nigel Farage, vol.17, pp.0-1

N. Farage,

, Jim: I'm absolutely fuming with the

, Nigel Farage: yes. Jim: but I know the Labour party ( ) loads and loads of UKIP vote in the North of

N. Farage,

, Jim: on the [promise that they would stand by the manifesto etc etc etc

N. Farage,

, Jim: I watched the whole of that debate yesterday I watch Parliament most days .h I watched

N. Farage,

, « Is This Evidence Labour Are Remain?, pp.17-2017

, est la souveraineté du peuple qui est sans cesse mise en avant dans l'émission, aux dépens même de la souveraineté du Parlement : Nigel Farage: so! (.) is it right folks (.) is it right (.) that MPs should have a vote a decisive vote .h on whatever(.) the final (.) Brexit deal is. the argument here (.) is about sovereignty (.) and those who say .h that MPs must have the final say on a deal .h are those that will argue that sovereignty of our country rests in Parliament (.on! we've had our say the government's job is to do its best .h it's not for Parliament to stop it, vol.17, pp.0-1

, John: well basically these guys have put their own job uh uh against their own party against their own leader and all that they were looking for is the interest of because we talked about during the (.) during the election time we talked about parliament democracy yeah? and I also voted for Brexit Nigel Farage, Certains auditeurs voient tout simplement dans l'intervention des parlementaires un déni de démocratie, semblable au fonctionnement d'une dictature

J. , ) yeah? so now we were told again and again we could have a yourself said in many occasions we're gonna have a Norway plus (.) model yeah? Nigel Farage: yes. John: now (.) n-now (.) what's happened to it now? now it looks like we're in a right mess! Nigel Farage

N. Farage, well Jo:hn John

, not making the progress that she should is because of these eleven people who were stopping her! John: well it's not the eleven people because we talked about democracy in our Parliament well we don't have a democracy in the Parliament we have dictators ( ) Nigel Farage: d'you think it's as bad as [that?] John: [I I] yes well it could get bas as that look at the situation we are in ( ) look at it now I regret it because it is (.) all thing's in a mess! (.) all right? Nigel Farage: but it, Nigel Farage: could it be one of the reasons we're in a mess and one of the reasons Theresa May is

, 17:1) discussions du Nigel Farage Show ont souvent pour thème l'exercice du pouvoir et du « bon gouvernement », dont chacun imagine sa version en rendant son jugement sur l'action de Theresa May : Nigel Farage: uhm 'I'm sure Theresa May is a principled (.) conscientious politician but unfortunately she is no leader!' is what I get (.) by: (.) text and °I, Nigel Farage: [w-well John! John! but John] we can do all these things with the right leadership! (F:14.12

N. Farage, :1) Santosh: we've got every-we've got so much we've got so many skilled people out there .h and we need to get everybody on on board .h and this is the way we take our (.) country forward. now (.) one of my analogies is how, vol.12, p.6

N. Farage, Santosh: [and] it wasn't England in fact it was West Ham that won the world cup but (

, Nigel Farage: >they always say that Ian Dale certainly says that as a West Ham supporter< Santosh

, Santosh I get the point (.) about optimism (.) about team work .h I just doubt we've got the right captain that's all >which maybe is a bit negative I don

, Pour le premier, l'accusation d'avoir « manqué à son devoir » (« dereliction of duty ») envers le pays est particulièrement saillante : Nigel Farage: 'plea:se don't blame Theresa May for the delay in article fifty blame Cameron and Osborne for leaving nothing for her to work with .h when they jump ship' says Arthur in Brighton. some truth I think in that Arthur cos (.) .h there was no plan B! .h cos they never thought they could possibly ever ever ever loose that referendum! (F:01.12:17:4) Santosh: we've got to accept that David Cameron offered a referendum perhaps to win the election and he (.) abandoned the sinking ship when the vote didn't go according to what he wanted (.) yeah? Nigel Farage: well he did Santosh but even worse than that (.) he didn, Sans surprise, Nigel Farage et ses partisans se montrent très durs à l'égard du gouvernement conservateur, et instruisent souvent des procès pour incompétence à son encontre, qu'il soit dirigé par David Cameron ou par Theresa May

, by the civil service .h she says these things in speeches and thinks it will all be okay. .h her actions (.) are very different .h no deal (.) is a lot better (.) than what (.) they're trying (.) to sell us out for .h but I'm guessing (.) I'm guessing that the Prime Minister thinks that ultimately (.) ultimately she can rely .h on getting enough support (.) in the House of Commons for a very (.) very (.) ba:d (.) deal. (F:06.12:17:0-2) Robert: the sheer incompetence of this government and the front bench is just staggering. you take for instance the (.) negotiating strategy of this week (.) she's got eighteen months to get the DUP on board and speak about the problems with

. Politiques-une-dimension-romanesque,-voire-prophétique and . Et-de-les-doter-d&apos;une-profondeur-historique, Democratic Unionist Party), lorsque cette dernière inflige un camouflet à Theresa May en refusant de soutenir l'accord obtenu à Bruxelles sur la frontière irlandaise. Nigel Farage consacre une émission entière à la crise entre les deux camps 252 , et érige progressivement Arlene Foster en véritable héroïne nationale : Cecil: it was ridiculous they were trying to drive away various regions in the United Kingdom .h and as you say it would have led to the beginning of the break up of the United Kingdom Nigel Farage: yes! .h oh (.) Cecil (.) look (.) I think what she's done today is heroic (.) I really really do (.) u:hm >funny isn

, Nigel Farage: I just wanna say as a final thought I think it's been a pretty .h miserable day .h uh a very very grubby deal .h was about to be done in Brussels .h uh I think she assumed (.) that the DUP would go along with it uh but they didn't! Arlene Foster stood up and said no:! .h we've seen it in the past Ulster says no and boy she meant it! °that's a very very good thing, vol.17, pp.0-5

, h into all sorts of concession on money the rights of EU citizens in this country .h and (.) I guess she just thought look .h they're not gonna kick up! they're not cause a stink they wouldn't dare risk bringing down the government cos that might mean that nasty Mr Corbyn got in .h and he doesn't like Northern Ireland very much .h he'd give it away (.) tomorrow! no I think what Mrs May banked on is that the DUP would be like her (.) career (.) politicians with no principles whatsoever well (.) they've met their match with Arlene Foster .h and I think she's played an heroic role, Nigel Farage: they thought they could bounce the DUP! into this .h just as Mrs May has managed to bounce the Eurosceptics of Johnson and Gove, vol.17, pp.0-2

, « we've seen it in the past Ulster says no and boy she meant it »), Nigel Farage et certains auditeurs la relient au passé, jusqu'à l'associer à d'autres « grandes figures » de l'histoire du Royaume-Uni : Nigel Farage: but it was the DUP (.) that did something about it Arlene Foster their leader .h saying no: and Jess says to me on Twitter, Mais le portrait d'Arlene Foster ne s'arrête pas à sa description « héroïque » : comme on l'a vu dans un extrait, vol.17, pp.0-2

, Arlene Foster leader of the DUP SCUPPERS A DEAL! °that would have seen Northern Ireland >stay part of the single market and the customs union effectively< .h not really leave the European Union (.) .h at all! .h I'm asking you whether she was right .h whether she was (.) wro:ng! (.) one or two theories have been put up that actually the whole thing's a set up that actually Mrs May is a appearing to give in to everything and then when a deal can't be reached she'll walk away (.) on the first of January .h you know rather like a modern day Queen Boudica .h uh and and and be some great heroine figure, Quant à sa confrontation avec Theresa May, c'est à qui trouvera la meilleure comparaison symbolique et historique : Nigel Farage, vol.17, pp.0-4

, « Was the DUP Right to Scupper the Deal? », 4 décembre 2017. Nigel Farage: ri:ght

, James: well let me tell you this right I wrote something on my Facebook page as soon as I heard this deal come through .h and I and I did it rather in jest than anything .h in which I said (.) that arrangements are being made for the triumphal entry of Theresa May into the Commons

J. , h and the musical strike up see the conquering hero comes by George Frederick Haendel ((Nigel Farage laughs)) and and she hasn't she you know they they they've just they're building up they've been building her up into some sort of Boudicea type figure Nigel Farage: hmm James: and she's not! (.) uh she's not even

N. Farage,

J. ,

N. Farage, James James you're sceptical James I thank you very much for your point of view, vol.17, p.11

, Cette emphase portée sur les actions d'un homme ou d'une femme politique ne connaît qu'un seul équivalent, qui éclipse d'ailleurs tous les autres exemples au vu de son nombre d'occurrences : le concert de louanges permanent

, La troisième émission du Nigel Farage Show lui est dédiée 255 ; au terme de 2017, une émission suggère aux auditeurs de donner leur opinion sur cette première année au pouvoir 256 ; entre les deux, Nigel Farage revient à loisir sur certaines décisions du président (le décret anti-immigration de Trump, le déplacement de l'ambassade américaine à Jérusalem) ou les enjeux électoraux américains (une élection sénatoriale dans l'Alabama). Durant ces émissions, le ton de Nigel Farage est extrêmement frappant, comme si le présentateur se livrait à une véritable geste hagiographique de Donald Trump-une geste des temps modernes, américaine et occidentale, où le héros est un homme d'affaires et le monstre les ennemis libéraux bien-pensants. Les faits ainsi racontés doivent inspirer de l'étonnement chez ceux qui les écoutent, Nigel Farage. L'émission coïncide en effet avec les premiers pas de l'administration Trump, à partir de l'investiture du président américain le 20 janvier 2017, à laquelle assiste Nigel Farage, 2017.

, Peter: have you checked where his towels and ( ) are made? Nigel Farage: uhm well [I yes I I ] Peter: [I tell you ( )] they're made in China Nigel Farage: [yeah] yeah. Peter: yeah so so so isn't a bit of a hypocrisy you know when it comes to his own business he looks for the best deal, the cheapest and he goes to build to make it in China while telling everyone else to do America's and buy Americans Nigel Farage: well! I think he would argue for tax wouldn't he uh that he's been allowed through a very complex uh system in America not to pay tax for many years and as he says if you want someone (.) to solve this get somebody who's been able to use the system to their own advantage so that someone who gets it so that they can make it fairer. I'm I now I have been Peter to the new Trump (.) hotel (.) in Washington uh is in the old uh post office and it's fantastic place to go it's fun it's buzzy and I'm supposed to be going there in a few week's time but I didn, Trump was elected January the twenty-first uh he became (.) inaugurated and I just wonder a year on (.) how do you think Trump is doing, vol.17, p.9

, La réponse de Nigel Farage présente alors une justification curieuse, tant elle se fonde sur une conception jusqu'au-boutiste et guerrière du « chef » (nous avons écourté l'échange pour des raisons de lisibilité) : Andreas: listen he gives inspiration in the sense that the way he gives his speeches it's very old fashion we're gonna do this we're gonna do that very Haig 257 in terms of world war one Haig. well look at it even that was the most ( ) Haig done in world war one! sending people to their deaths it doesn't mean (.) the inspiration of what he did, Chez cet autre auditeur, c'est la tentation autoritaire et belliqueuse du personnage qui pose problème

A. , ) in my opinion obviously your point of view is different a nut-case being in charge of the free world d'you know what I'm saying Nigel Farage: well Andreas ((he chuckles)) so come on so in summation you think he's a nut-case do you Andreas: well okay he's not (.) I think he provokes on purpose

, Nigel Farage: fi:ne al right so (.) all right so you think so you think at times he behaves inappropriately for the US president yeah

, Douglas Haig (1861-1928) a commandé lors de la Bataille de la Somme, la troisième bataille d'Ypres et l'offensive des Cent-Jours. Il demeure une figure extrêmement controversée de l'histoire militaire britannique, comme le soulignent Robin Prior et Trevor Wilson : « [s]ince Haig's death the fierce controversy over his conduct of military operations, 1915.

, on reste frappé par le peu de cas dont Nigel Farage fait montre à l'égard de la masse des soldats sacrifiés par quelques grands hommes, justifiés ultimement par leur victoire : « in the end he was a winner right »-l'impression est grande d'entendre la formule bien connue « la fin justifie les moyens ». Comme pour Arlene Foster, Nigel Farage trouve pour Trump son équivalent historique : Nigel Farage: .h well I I have to say I don't know how many walls Donald's built Churchill in fact was a very very keen bricklayer whether Donald himself will roll his sleeves up, Bien que la pointe d'humour à la fin de son tour de parole tente d'alléger ses propos, vol.17, p.0

, Dès la troisième émission du Nigel Farage Show, elle nous est pourtant clarifiée pour nous par une anecdote qui revient fréquemment dans le reste de notre corpus, racontée à loisir par un Nigel Farage qui n'hésite pas à mettre l'accent sur son rôle décisif : Nigel Farage: Peter let me answer your question by saying this (.) .h that Theresa May flies to the USA on Thursday uh she'll be meeting uh senior senators and congressmen on Capitol Hill on Thursday .h uh and she will have this meeting in the Oval Office uh by the way an Oval Office (.) in which the bust of Churchill is back. and I'm plea:sed about that because I asked him face to face, L'association du milliardaire américain avec Winston Churchill a de quoi surprendre : outre bien sûr, la description burlesque des deux hommes en maçons, la figure du « vieux lion » anglais est généralement associée à la défense de la nation britannique, vol.17, p.3

, 17:7) Robert: hi good evening Nigel Nigel Farage: [good evening] Robert: [I love] the idea I love the idea of you popping out from behind (.) Winston Churchill's bust ((Nigel Farage laughs)) 'surprise!' Nigel Farage: well one thing Robert I will say .h the one thing I am just a little proud of and I've no doubt I'll be shot down for saying this but when I met Trump four days after the election (.) in his apartment in Trump tower I did rather cheekily (.) say at the end of the meeting uh please Donald could you put the uh bust of Winston Churchill back in the Oval Office because that

, Matthew: well I was talking with my colleagues earlier on u:h at work with regards to this a:nd we've come to the assumption we don't particularly like him uhm we don't particularly think he's (.) the greatest president that's ever going to be: but we did draw some similarity uh between him and a fantastic world leader. uhm so first of all he has achieved more in his first year (.) than most presidents of recent times. now you can only applaud him for that and when I say achieve more (.) what I, La plus étonnante de toutes les justifications est fournie par un auditeur, qui compare l'impopularité du président américain à la posture solitaire, décriée, mais finalement héroïque

N. Farage,

. Matthew, that's fair enough fair play. but then we started drawing similarities between him (.) and someone who is now seen as being a hero

W. Churchill, when Winston Churchill was first brought into office as Prime Minister he was tasked with what he believed what to be (.) defending the country. now you could argue that Trump thinks he's doing the same thing with regards to the wall. .h and when Winston stood up (.) against Germany and also the rest of the world said you're nuts you're mad what are you doing. but of course everyone then soon followed suit .h well very similar with Trump! Winston was very very bombastic

. Matthew, ) uhm a very powerful figure he was seen as being a little bit of a Boris Johnson character a bit of a buffoon (.) he spent most of his time drunkNigel Farage: and a war and a war monger (.) and a failure in office and yeah many things like that Matthew: absolutely! and actually if you look at Trump and by the way (.) he's even put a bust of

N. Farage, New York (.) in the Trump tower (.) went to meet him and congratulate him. as we left (.) the one request the only request that was made that day was would he please put (.) the bust of Churchill back into the Oval Office as a symbol (.) of you know how he felt (.) the relationship between our two countries ought to be and d'you know what Matthew? did it on the first day and I was very very very pleased with that Matthew: oh absolutely and if you actually draw the similarities again Winston Churchill the first year everyone was thinking he was absolutely ma:d and that he was not going to be able to achieve half the things that he was going to do, Matthew can I just tell you .h that when I went to meet him with a couple of my colleagues (.) and it was on the Saturday after he had been elected on the Wednesday and that was in his apartment (.) in

, Nigel Farage: yeah yeah had operation Scylla had a German invasion happened Churchill would have done it right so Matthew overall (.) you and your work colleagues think he's doing pretty blooming well Matthew: uh as I've said we don

N. Farage,

, Matthew: I think he's gonna go down as being a very good president to the United States Nigel Farage: terrific thank you very much and d'you know what Matthew is right we don

. Le-parallèle-témoigne-de-la-prééminence-de-churchill, . La-seconde-guerre-mondiale-dans-la-mémoire-collective-britannique, and . Dans-le-cadre-d, Sans nous étendre plus en avant sur l'association entre les deux personnages, soulignons toutefois que ce sont leurs velléités isolationnistes (le mur de Trump, l'isolement par rapport au continent européen) qui sont ici mises en rapport et qui sont vues en fin de compte comme le prélude à la victoire et la gloire. Peu importe qu'une telle perspective soit historiquement inexacte 258 ; elle permet de donner au présent une profondeur historique, romanesque et fantasmée-un présent qui serait non seulement celui des États-Unis de Trump, mais du Royaume-Uni post-Brexit. Nombreuses sont en effet les références à la Seconde Guerre Mondiale, nombreux sont les rappels du prix payé par le Royaume-Uni pour délivrer l'Europe du joug nazi : chacun à leur manière

, exemple plus haut, la mention de la période n'est jamais anodine : elle est très souvent rattachée au présent et, dans la plupart des extraits que l'on va examiner, fait office de justification pour s'opposer à l'Europe actuelle ou défendre le patriotisme britannique. Chez cet électeur travailliste, le sentiment d'avoir vu les idéaux défendus par son grand-père se faire trahir par l'Union européenne donne à son intervention et sa colère une forme de légitimité que vient appuyer son émotion : Nigel Farage: you know the one thing Simon that you and I both know from being involved in politics .h is the public do not vote on mass (.) for parties that are split (.) down the middle and I put it to you Labour (.) is facing an existential crisis Simon: we're facing a problem you know there's no denying it as well but you know we can if we work together and you know obviously I know we're different backgrounds different things but (.) I think one thing we can agree on is we want to come out (.) of this corrupt European Union

N. Farage,

, ) when I listen to you (.) I have a feeling that maybe one day you may have to find yourself in a different party because you said that with absolute belief and passion and I thank you for your call, vol.17, p.4

, les deux étant ainsi liés par effet d'association : Nigel Farage: so nationalism (.) good thing or a bad thing? Peter: why it's a good thing and u:m and you know I I was saying to the chap to the phone you know both my my great grand-fathers and my grand-father fought (.) .h in the war uh you know at that time nationalism was something that was (.) that was praised and encouraged and now there's this sort of bizarre situation where (.) people try to conflate (.) uh patriotism with nationalism and you're right it is a kind of play on words to to try and conflate it with national-socialism which is the very thing that they (.) risked their lives and many of their many of their friends dies for uhm I think it's also quite interesting that you know it very, vol.17, p.9

, Déjà citée plus haut, il nous semble important de reproduire à nouveau l'intervention de cet auditeur nostalgique des relations avec les pays du Commonwealth, dont il garde en mémoire l'aide apportée pendant le conflit : Peter: we have turned

N. Farage,

, ) we didn't stand alone we stood we stood with Canada and South Africa and Australia and New Zealand and India. .hh and we stood with all these countries. and we've turned our back on them and it's ab-solutely dis-graceful Nigel Farage: Peter we haven't just turned our backs on them? we've betrayed them!

N. Farage, ) our friends .h in the Commonwealth all over the world and we've now got the chance to press the reset button, vol.17, p.14

, de l'isolement que sont venus briser ces pays (« we didn't stand alone ») semble résonner avec la situation du Royaume-Uni en 2017 et dire bien plus que tout autre chose la crise (notamment d'identité) que le pays traverse. Ces extraits semblent en effet avoir pour office de réaffirmer des valeurs, de redéfinir des alliés et de s'opposer aussi à de nouvelles incarnations de l'ennemi : l'Union européenne pour les uns, Donald Trump pour les autres : Peter: if you don't stand up to the bullies you the world would be run by bullies .h and we need to understand Nigel is that Britain is the best country in the world and we are the bastion of democracy not the United States

, Nigel Farage: so what would you [so so Peter] what would you do? so Peter what would you I mean would would you not go? Nigel Farage

, De telles affirmations laissent peu de place au débat rationnel et argumenté

, Rachel Chin dans son examen de la « mémoire sélective » et nostalgique des arguments pro-Brexit : « such oversimplified ideas of national identity and wartime patriotism are circumventing any chance of having a meaningful discussion about Brexit would or would not change life on this island nation ». Parfois, Nigel Farage trouve-t-il bon de modérer l'enthousiasme d'auditeurs un peu trop nostalgiques : Nigel Farage: Stephen from Haslemere says 'I feel Mrs

, h he can repair (.) .h a poor economy he can be the model (.) to rebuild (.) the broken (.) British empire.' well (.) that's very optimistic Stephen I don't think .h that America is coming back into the British empire, vol.17, pp.0-3

, En revanche, le symbole de l'île, isolée et protégée de l'influence (ou des flux) du continent, trouve une déclinaison dans l'image des falaises blanches de Douvres, chez les auditeurs aussi bien que chez le présentateur : Nigel Farage: and Hugh uh ((he chuckles)) says on Facebook 'we have the white cliffs of Dover (.) even that doesn't stop them!' well (.) yeah I'm not sure there are that many rope ladders uh going up the white cliffs of Dover everyday .h uh m-most (.) most immigration into Britain is legal and that

, Nigel Farage: so you know (.) we're gonna see a lot more (.) of barriers and walls we have an English Channel! we've got an advantage! I just wish (.) we looked after it better, vol.17, pp.0-5

C. Britain and D. , Defeat into Victory), qui compare les partisans du Brexit aux Britanniques en juin 1940, après l'évacuation de Dunquerque : « [t]here was a national sense of relief ? at leaving the Continent and withdrawing behind the white cliffs of Dover » 259. Ces allusions et cette ligne de défense sont même devenus monnaie courante au Royaume-Uni, avant et après les résultats du référendum, comme le souligne Rachel Chin 260. Pour autant, Nigel Farage se défend d'adhérer à une vision impérialiste ou agressive vis-à-vis d'autres nations-en tout cas lorsqu'il s'agit des « États-Unis d'Europe » : Nigel Farage: Jake says 'I would love a United States of Europe .h we need to be united (.) against the larger nations such as the USA China Russia' .h °against the larger nations° gosh I .h see Jake now I find that (.) I, Ces extraits ne manquent pas d'évoquer la conclusion du livre de Michael Korda

, We will get out there and we will become incredibly successful because we will be insecure again, vol.17, pp.0-2, 1940.

, Avant d'achever cet examen des utilisations diverses de l'histoire nationale pour nous tourner plus précisément vers la communauté nationale, mentionnons ici l'argument qui voudrait qu'un usage passé soit toujours une bonne chose dans le présent-que parce que les frontières physiques ont parsemé l'histoire de l'humanité, elles ne soient pas plus condamnables aujourd

, Daniel: it's good that Trump has stuck to his words like I knew he would and like you do. I a fantastic idea to separate Mexico from the United States of America, vol.17, p.1

, La force de cette position tient à la fois dans sa justification savante, ses exemples variés qui pèsent comme autant d'arguments d'autorité (mais nient leurs spécificités historiques et locales), son bon sens quasiment essentialiste (« since day one »), comme s'il était dans la nature de l'homme, de tout temps, de bâtir des murs et des frontières physiques. Certains auditeurs ne s'y trompent pas : Nigel Farage: Donnie says 'just what the world needs (.) more walls it has all always worked in the past hasn, vol.17, pp.0-3

, Facebook messages! Lauren Develin says 'funny how millions of tourists (.) visit the Great wall of China. everyone looks at that (.) in awe.' Steven Hatgood suggests 'we get the Romans back to re-build Hadrian's wall' please don't take offence (.) Scottish listeners Ricky Mitchel says 'when you buy a house and look at the deeds it shows you the borders of you land () so what (.) is (.) the difference'. and that is the general ton .h and it's into this debate (.) about building walls (.) and whether it makes sense in the modern world or whether it's something that belongs belongs back way way in the past I mean don't forget the Berlin wall came down didn't it! now the Berlin wall of course (.) wasn't (.) to keep people out °it was to keep people in° but you, Mais Nigel Farage lui-même n'est pas loin de reprendre la même posture lorsqu'il s'appuie plusieurs fois sur l'exemple du mur de Berlin, et lorsqu'il fait part des messages d'auditeurs en ce sens : Nigel Farage: .h, vol.17, pp.0-3

, not to stop people coming in it was a wall (.) to stop people getting out and of course the Berlin wall (.) fell and we all thought those of us who are old enough that that was a very good and a great thing. .h and I sort of teased earlier in saying well of course in the modern world (.) I guess walls (.) don't (.) belong any more. well here is (.) a fact for you. .hh that since the Berlin wall fell (.) sixty-five countries (.) have erected fences or walls or borders on their territory. nearly a third of nations in the world since nineteen ninety have begun (.) to put up (.) walls barriers borders ((he turns a page)) or have plans to do so and indeed.h you know right across Europe it's Nigel Farage: no I (.) hh-h-Henri I accept (.) that on June twenty-third last year that that was (.) the situation. what I'm saying to you if you do listen to this show or follow on Facebook or whatever it is that every single day significant, Nigel Farage: here's a fact for you and a very interesting one. the Berlin wall I think we would all perceive to be (.) evil. it was a wall

N. Farage, Henri: [you're making that up Nigel] that's naughty! Nigel Farage: well well I tell you what I'll do I'll also quote you YouGov and all the other polling organisations who show that when Theresa May said a couple of weeks ago we're leaving the single market .h and people were shocked (.) by a majority of fifty-one to thirty-six people agreed with leaving the single market so Henri (.) the war is over!

N. Farage, , vol.17, p.9

, Face à des opposants « repentis », en revanche, le présentateur ne manque pas de souligner et de louer leur capacité au rassemblement. La même caractérisation revient constamment : pour Nigel

C. Farage and . Sont-de-«-vrais-démocrates-»-qui, Nigel Farage: but what I like Matthew and what interest me (.) is (.) and I don't hear it from Clegg and I don't hear it (.) from Tim Farron ((he laughs)) and I don't hear it from Lord Mandelson .h but increasingly (.) I get people like you Matthew .h uh that I speak to who are (.) genuine democrats .h who say look I was on the other side but I think probably we just

N. Farage, well Brenda you know I I I will always respect people that ring up and say 'I was on the other side but I accept the result' and d'you know something? fifteen twenty years ago .h we wouldn't even have this conversation because that would have been a given and yet (.) what we've had since Brexit with (.) leading politicians and some public figures wanting effectively to reverse the vote .h and what we're seeing (.) was somebody's protest that are taking place in Washington uh are people (.) who simply can't get their heads around (.) twenty sixteen, vol.17, p.11

, h I want to say to you Nigel that I (.) profoundly disagreed with leaving the EU

. Paul, I am a democrat over and above absolutely everything else I believe in democracy .h and you won and I call upon other people in this country that voted to remain .h that the time for division is over. we should re-unite as a United Kingdom and we should leave. .h and Nigel what that means is I I've been I've been a liberal-democrat I've

N. Farage,

. Paul, and when you dispense with democracy and when you dispense with the ballot box you get bullets and you get violence. I don't want bullets I don't want violence I don't want people to hurt each other we lost (.) to to everybody out there that voted to remain we lost. plea:se for the love of god and the love of our country please accept it. .h Nigel I respect you I wish you well (.) uhm and and I salute your victory right butNigel Farage: Paul I I Paul I have to say (.) I have to say that is without doubt the most touching call I've yet had (.) on the Nigel Farage Show. somebody who is a sincere (.) and genuine democrat who accepts the results and wants us (.) to come (.) together. and Paul, uh I've actually resigned from the Liberal-democrats I'm you know I don't intend to vote Liberal democrats again while Farron is there uh because they don't respect democracy

, De son point de vue, la victoire dans les urnes (qu'ils s'agisse d'un référendum, ou d'une élection) donne toute légitimité à celui ou celle ainsi investi(e) d'un mandat populaire 262 : Nigel Farage: he puts a temporary travel ban (.) of ninety days on a series of countries that Obama had identified as being a threat to America AND THE WORLD GOES MA::D! (.) and as we speak (.) just half a mile away or so (.) they are protesting (.) in ten Downing Street. .h now I have a feeling (.) that of the motivations here (.) are very similar to the anti-Brexit protesters .h there's a lot of people out there that do not like the year two thousand and sixteen and would like us to reverse us back to twenty fifteen! I think you're anti-democratic you people .h I think you simply (.) cannot accept (.) what has happened! now °if you're (.) listening to us .h uh down there in Whitehall and you wanna get your voice heard, On souligne dans le dernier extrait l'urgence mise par l'auditeur sur la nécessité, pour la communauté nationale, de se rassembler. À l'opposé d'un tel appel, vol.17, pp.0-2

D. Fait, entre ceux qui exigent une sortie de l'UE sans concessions et ceux qui veulent annuler cette même sortie purement et simplement. Face à ces divisions, Nigel Farage ne peut rester neutre, et, comme on le voit, délaisse un temps sa posture consensuelle. Outre donc qu'elles fournissent des situations conflictuelles à l'antenne, de telles positions témoignent d'un malaise certain, celui d'assister à l'implosion du Royaume-Uni : Linda: I was just wondering whether you'd actually received uhm a phone call from the president of the Republic of Ireland to thank you for the jobs that gonna actually go to Ireland now u:::hm I just think it's it's a big mistake (.) and we had literally five countries (.) in in the referendum (.) and (.) practically nearly three and half (.) countries voted to remain and just one and a half voted to u so Nigel Farage, la ligne de fracture entre les partisans et les adversaires du Brexit semble se durcir au fil des émissions

N. Farage,

L. ,

, On se trouve là encore dans une conception très « illibérale » de la démocratie : « [e]n même temps qu'est consacré le pouvoir de légitimation et de sanction du peuple (au moyen d'élections librement organisées), les libertés publiques (de la presse, d'organisation partisane, etc.) ne sont pas reconnues au prétexte qu'elles parasiteraient l'expression libre et immédiate de la volonté générale

, Nigel Farage: well [hang on hang on] wow wow wow Wales voted very clearly to leave didn't it Linda: yeah but only one-I mean Northern Ireland voted to remain Scotland voted to remain

, Gibraltar voted to remain and nearly half of England voted to remain

N. Farage,

L. ,

L. , England voted nearly half of England voted to remain .h and I just think it's a big mistake Nigel Farage: look for the last hundred years for the last hundred years Scotland returned lots of Labour MPs and Southern England returned lots of Conservative MPs .h but we were still a united kingdom .h and whether we had a Labour government or a Tory government that is what people accepted (.) living in a nation state (.) >living in a democracy< but your comments about Ireland are fascinating. so (.) we're always given this (.) impression (.) that Ireland lov:e the European Union. think it's wonderful Linda twice (.) in the last sixteen years (.) the Irish people have rejected European treaties (.) only to be forced and bullied (.) in second referendums, Nigel Farage: >well of course we are< Linda: we're not! we're not! Nigel Farage

N. Farage, ) well when we leave the EU (.) and should Scotland decide to have a referendum and they live Britain how would you feel about a wall being built between (.) uhm Scotland and Brit-and u:h England? Nigel Farage: well obviously Hadrian's wall is a starting point for that project no look Sarah ((he laughs)) you know obviously I don't want the United Kingdom .h to break up and d'you know something I don't believe that it will, vol.17, p.12

, Certains auditeurs, pour leur part, ne laissent aucun doute sur leur positionnement-ils défendent un nationalisme britannique, comme dans l'extrait suivant : Robert: I've been a nationalist (.) uh back in nineteen seventy-four when we tried to stop going into the Common Market

N. Farage,

, Robert: I've been a nationalist because I I and I wanted to ( ) a difference between Catalonian nationalist and a UK nationalist. .h I'm a nationalist to my country and that includes England Scotland Ireland and Wales .h and I don't want to see any division on that, vol.17, p.1

, De fait, la dernière mention des quatre nations qui forment le Royaume-Uni est importante. D'un côté, les indépendantistes du SNP (Scottish National Party), europhiles, sont des adversaires directs pour Nigel Farage, ce qui explique ses commentaires souvent peu amènes à l'égard de Nicola Sturgeon, première ministre d'Écosse. Coco: so Nicola Sturgeon has said that she

, h are you prepared to see Scotland leave (.) after three hundred years of being part of the UK? Nigel Farage: I think the sooner we call (.) Nicola Sturgeon's bluff (.) the better uh Nicola Sturgeon does not support independence (.) .h she does not support independence she supports separation from the United Kingdom and to become effectively a region (.) a region of (.) the European Union (.) a small insignificant country with very little say and, Theresa May has recently announced that she doesn't seem (to do as well)

. Paradoxalement and . Qu, il défend la Catalogne qui réclame son indépendance vis-à-vis de l'Espagne, et qu'il dénonce la brutalité qui a entouré le référendum pour l'autodétermination, Nigel Farage dénonce fermement le nationalisme écossais et, comme à son habitude, le supposé régime d'impunité accordé par les médias : Ken: and also I'd like to say why is the Scottish National Party not considered racists (.) I mean they want to make Scotland purely Scottish ((Nigel Farage rattles his throat)) they're not considered racists they're considered forward-thinking progressive people Nigel Farage

N. Farage,

, Ken: they just doesn't I can't understand I cannot understand

, ) I (.) went up in (.) two thousand and thirteen (.) to Edinburgh (.) uh where I was attacked (.) by a mob (.) of eighty to ninety (.) Scottish nationalists uh their words and phrases they were using not just about me (.) but about the English (.) if I dared to use that language against any other group I would have been arrested on the spot they were able to do it and much of the Scottish media (.) thought it was my own fault (.) cos I shouldn't have come north of the border. and HOW is it that Scottish nationalism Welsh nationalism IRISH nationalism has been tolerated almost encouraged! in this country by much of the media

, De l'autre côté, la frontière entre l'Irlande et l'Irlande du Nord, pomme de discorde des négociations à Bruxelles

, Nigel Farage: I have been over the course of the last week absolutely furious that we're prepared to pay up to fifty billion pounds .h as an exit bill. I can't believe (.) that EU citizens (.) living in the UK will have more rights that UK citizens living in the UK and recourse to two courts .h and no:w (.) she was about to sign something (.) that in effect (.) would have begun (.) to break up our country! .h I I tweeted pretty much immediately (.) after we were told what this deal was what does that mean for Scotland? what does it mean (.) for other parts (.) of the United Kingdom? didn't take long did it Nicola Sturgeon said (.) if one part of the UK .h can retain regulatory alignment with the European Union and stay in the single market there is surely no good practical reason why others can't! and even Sadiq Kha:n (.) the mayor of London said (.) huge ramifications for London if Theresa May has conceded that it's possible (.) for part of the UK >to remain within the single market and customs unions after Brexit!< .h Londoners (.) voted to remain in the EU a similar deal here (.) could protect °in his view° tens of thousands of jobs, vol.17, pp.0-1

, Arlene Foster .h was she RIGHT (.) to scupper the deal (.) that would have seen Northern Ireland remain in the customs union and the single market and if you think yes absolutely it's part of the UK it should never have been considered (.) to be treated differently call me

, or maybe like me .h you think it would have led to a constitutional disaster (.) with Scotland Wales London Gibraltar and goodness knows where else, vol.17, pp.0-1

, L'extrait suivant présente ainsi le cas extrêmement intéressant d'une auditrice, manifestement assez âgée au ton de sa voix, qui évoque en toute bonne foi cette possibilité : Joan:. h hi Nigel I've never understood wh-(.) we just don't get Northern Ireland independent (.) .h then they can do exactly as they like Nigel Farage: well because Joan (.) because Joan it's an integral part of the United Kingdom constitutionally, Face à Nigel Farage, pourtant, certains auditeurs anglais n'hésitent pas à évoquer la possibilité de se séparer de l'Irlande du Nord

N. Farage, he chuckles)) you could argue that I suppose about other parts of the United Kingdom

N. Farage, do you? so are you an English nationalist Joan? Joan: say again? Nigel Farage: are you an English nationalist? (.) [you know ] Joan: [no if I'm] many nationality I'm where I lived for fifty years and that's South

N. Farage, Joan if if the British government (.) was to (.) say (.) that it was going to detach (.) the United Kingdom uh Northern Ireland from the United Kingdom d'you know what would happen (.) the Troubles (.) would start up (.) all (.) over (.) again. Joan: easy to counter that Nigel..h the Troubles actually weren't any to do with us look I do feel Britain or England (.) spends its time making up for the past. now I presume we're making up all over Cromwell and so on from there, )) right okay fi-.h I (.)

N. Farage, h I I think your point of view (.) .h that Northern Ireland over fifty years has cost us a fortune and caused us outgrow and when do we get rid of them .h I do not support that it's not a majority view but Joan I tell you what you're not on your own (.) saying that I've heard it before I thank you for that point of view, vol.17, p.3

L. &apos;embarras-du-présentateur-semble and . Marqué, Il n'est pourtant pas dans la condamnation et assure même à l'auditrice qu'elle n'est pas isolée : « I do not support that it's not a majority view but Joan I tell you what you're not on your own saying that I've heard it before ». Il fait ici montre d'une large ouverture d'esprit ; la même situation se reproduit d'ailleurs avec un autre auditeur : Hugh: uh hello sir thank you for taking my call

. Hugh, Hugh: therefore they (.) they got to make a choice they wanna be part of the United Kingdom (.) .h go along with what the United Kingdom wants to do. if they wanna be part of the European Union then it's about time .h they negotiated with the Irish Republic to become part of that Republic. that would get us (.) get them what they want (.) in other words they stay within the European Union .h and would leave the problem of this wretched border uh (.) solved! Nigel Farage: so you effectively Hugh think (.) that Northern Ireland should disappear as it is, my opinion since nineteen twenty-nine uh uh partition between Northerners and the Irish Republic Northern Ireland have been a pain in the butt (.) for the United Kingdom Nigel Farage

, Nigel Farage: and do you think that's the view of most people living in England? Hugh: u::h I don't know I don't know most of people living in

N. Farage,

, Hugh: but that's certainly my view and I can only

N. Farage, Hugh you know I had somebody on yesterday .h and she was making a very similar point I think there are people (.) uh in England who are pretty bored with Northern Ireland .h think it's cost us lot of money a lot of lives been a lot of outgrow .h and I do understand that point of view BUT it is part of the United Kingdom Hugh and that is not gonna change .h and

, you're a hard line Brexit supporter and I respect you for that I don't happen to agree that Brexit's a good idea but uh that's [yeah] my only again my opinion [yeah] (.) however (.) it seems to me quite (.) simple. .h Northern Ireland wants to stay in the union in the European Union so! uh and and the Irish Republic are already a member of that union, Nigel Farage: this is pretty hard line stuff Hugh isn't it just boot them out yeah? Hugh: you are a hard line

N. Farage and ;. Hugh,

N. Farage, NO NO] I mean look passion's great and that's what LBC's fo:r! and we want all points of view and (.) Hugh you are not on your own! (.) there are people out there who feel like this I know that I understand that I am not one of them

D. Lui-unionistes, . Partisans, and . Brexit, voient dans la crise irlandaise une nouvelle attaque contre la souveraineté du pays : James: the European Union and the Taoiseach need to understand one thing. Northern Ireland it is British. it will remain British sovereign territory we are not going to have a border down the (.) the Irish sea because

J. , , vol.17

L. &apos;échange-suivant-témoigne, à nos yeux, d'une division préoccupante, tant elle révèle une méconnaissance mutuelle faite de fantasme et d'un certain degré de dédain (« your average hardline Brexiteer ») : Ross: I know I know your average hard line Brexiteer doesn't (.) give a damn about the Irish (.) and what happens over there

N. Farage, >sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry< Ross .h] (.) w-what evidence do you have for suggesting that Brexiteers couldn't give a damn about Northern or Southern Ireland? Ross: (.) you just have to listen to Owen Paterson even someone like the (

, ) when when Ireland came up he sort of (.) made a little ( ) you know it's been a (.) back and forth of all the unpleasantness between England and Ireland over the centuries. (.) that's like (.) you know it's supposed to have a decent grasp with history, vol.17

, Shebaz: because people who voted for Brexit (.) are not represented in Parliament with all of them like you said are living in the M twenty-five they don't represent the North uh the North-East uh Wales none of them do! (F:14.12.17:6) John: but this is elected MPs Nigel Farage: yeah John: they're supposed to (.) think and know everything right because they're (.) wise people .h they're lawyers they're solicitors Nigel Farage: yeah. well they might be educated John whether they're wi::se .h uh, is a very different point .h uh and from my experience of them, L'intervention de cet auditeur fait d'ailleurs réagir d'autres partisans du Brexit qui déclarent leur soutien à l'union

, Gary: you bang on week in week out about democracy about the will of the people uh (.) but if it was forty-eight fifty-two the other way (.) and you for many many years to come and what we've seen uh is a fifty-two forty-eight margin .h in a very hard-fought referendum .h that margin now considerably wide Gary in all the opinion polls uh and and you know this is gonna happen, Nigel Farage ne cesse d'appuyer sur le mépris cultivé par les élites à l'égard des électeurs « ordinaires » (nous soulignons), vol.17

, ) vote against this political construction .h we've been part of for over forty years, Nigel Farage: h-actually Joseph they're proud of themselves cos they think people like you Joseph are pig ignorant and stupid and, vol.17, p.3

N. Farage, but Frank! Frank! these people Frank I mean you (.) you know .h °you're slagging off° the CBI and the IMF these people are all experts Frank! Frank: yeah I know yeah they're so they're so right and they're gonna be so

, Jake: it's great to be speaking to somebody (.) so far across over there in DC such a such a notoriously (.) nefarious personality as yourself uh Nigel ((Nigel Farage chuckles)) true to say it's ( ) speak to you Nigel Farage: thank you! so what do you think of nationalism Jake does the word worry you Jake: just wanna start with the uhm that that nationalism really I mean let's just start with a quote you remind me of a quote from uhm from the uhm (.) nationalism is an infantile disease (.) it's the measles of mankind and that was a (.) certain (.) Albert Einstein who I would sort of suggest is slightly smarter than yourself Nigel even he may be even smarter than all of your callers u:hm and I you know I do think nationalism is a scourge on society and I, Certains auditeurs ne font d'ailleurs qu'encourager cette vision en faisant montre d'une arrogance et d'un dédain considérables à l'égard de ceux qui ne partagent pas leur avis et ont voté pour la sortie du Royaume-Uni

, Nigel Farage: I have-I haven't read it but I have heard of it certainly yes

. Le-ton-pontifiant and . Tortueux, Dans un autre cas, pour défendre cette idée d'un pays divisé selon des considérations sociologiques, des marqueurs non seulement de classe mais aussi de géographie, Nigel Farage renvoie les auditeurs à une carte publiée sur le site de LBC 264 , en nommant explicitement les lieux et les enjeux qui s'y rattachent : Effay: you actually are not engaged in an intellectual argument you're actually appealing to people raw basic instincts .h and I think you should be very careful about that you shouldn't do that people have the right to to disagree with you but don't impugn their motives Nigel Farage: no well well Effay Effay Effay firstly .h on the petition I I you know all I'm telling you is these are the same people that opposed Brexit and they all live in very very few postcodes in this country and that I think is a mater of interest I haven't really commented on it but it's very very interesting .h uh to see the geography of that, l'accumulation des références érudites ainsi que l'insulte à peine cachée (« slightly smarter than yourself Nigel even he may be even smarter than all of your callers ») semblent ici fournir un exemple parfait à Nigel Farage, qui a soin de laisser cet auditeur dérouler son discours, vol.17, pp.31-32

N. Farage-;-hmh]-yeah and . Richard, Brighton Edinburgh I think you might have said Manchester

N. Farage,

R. , actual percentages for me otherwise it's a bit like (.) a man in the pub story you know what I mean Nigel Farage: [.h yeah] Richard: [what] what percentage of people voted in those cities or have put their name on that petition (.) compared to people in the shires as you said you know it it's kind of a bit of it, quite a sizeable amount of the population but I'm wondering if you could break that down into (.)

N. Farage, ) go to Richard go to LBC dot co dot uk and you can work your way through it and you'll see (.) that vastly overwhelmingly .h uh not only (.) were ninety-one per cent of these people the same people (.) that had voted to stop Brexit but that over ninety per cent of them live (.) within actually in a very very small (.) number (.) of (.) postcodes have a look at it Richard that's why I've put it (.) on the website uh and I think that people will, vol.17, p.11

, Au moment d'écrire ces lignes (juillet 2018), la carte est malheureusement introuvable sur le site de la chaîne

, La voix des urnes est celle qui paraît s'imposer naturellement ; pourtant, Nigel Farage ne cesse de rappeler l'iniquité du système électoral britannique (« first-past-the-post voting ») et les calculs stratégiques qui en découlent : Nigel Farage: what has happened (.) to the Cabinet Brexiteers (.) why are they giving in (.) on issue after issue and yes it's the Davies and its the (.) .h of course the Borises and the Goves uhm (.) when I talk William (.) when I talk to people I know in the Conservative party on the Brexit side no names no ( ) .h they all say the same thing 'look it may not be perfect under Theresa May .h but if (.) if we were speak out (.) and split the government (.) and bring it down (.) there'd be a general election and then that Mr Corbyn (.) would get elected uh and he, Réflexions pour l'analyse du discours populiste » 105)

D. Runciman, N. Dans-le-documentaire-de, «. Koenig, and . Town-v-gown, When you look at the map of England and Wales, really apart from towns that had universities, everywhere else was voted for Brexit. What do Nottingham and Warwick and Norwich and Brighton and Bristol and Exeter and Cambridge and London and Manchester have in common? University, New Tribes in Brexit Britain

, h uh bringing probably some extraordinary super taxes but also (.) he's now a hostage (.) to the Blairite parliamentary party he'd do his best effectively to stop Brexit William (.) that is the answer I'm given that they say time and again to me, vol.17

N. Farage,

. Sylvia, this is what's been going on. so I suggest to all those who want to come out of Europe now (.) get to UKIP on mass Nigel Farage

N. Farage, I know from my years of leading UKIP and standing for UKIP that people would say 'well Nigel we absolutely agree with you but in this constituency we've got to vote Labour (.) otherwise the Tories will get in.' (.) .h and then you go (.) a hundred miles south (.) and they say 'Nigel we absolutely agree with you but we've got to vote Tory (.) to stop Labour getting in!' .h and it's very very difficult (.) I mean (.) for UKIP to have got four-I mean I look back on it now and think for UKIP to have got four million votes in a general election four and a half million votes in a European election .h given (.) the nature (.) of our first-past-the post system was in itself quite an achievement but Sylvia (.) in reality (.) in reality .h are millions really gonna say 'right! this time (.) we won't worry about a Corbyn government or a May government we'll vote for the party that supports our view' are they really gonna do it?

N. Farage, would if! but that's my question Sylvia would people do it Sylvia: I don't know you see I can't take the risk that they will I want to I want to

N. Farage, Sylvia: [and uh] all those Labour people you know they're now voting Labour and people are even voting Liberal Democrats would you believe in this uh by-election

N. Farage, ) leave supporter. (.) but let me just suppose there was a general election next week (.) all right? and you've got Mrs May (.) with her very soft form of Brexit or Jeremy Corbyn as the runners and riders to be the next Prime Minister and UKIP and the Lib dems. who would you vote for next week

N. Farage, well! I no no listen! you don't have to answer that! .h the fact you've got that dilemma (.) shows you (.) just how difficult it is to change British politics. it's a great call, vol.17, p.3

. Le-ton-est-donc-loin-d&apos;être and . Confiant, Face aux auditeurs inquiets, Nigel Farage demeure lui-même ambigu, lance des piques mi-sérieuses, mi-ironiques, comme dans l'extrait suivant : Nigel Farage: and your text coming in 'please tell me Brexit will not be unravelled after today's ruling by the Supreme Court' .h Tracey in Laleham (.) well if it does Tracey I'll have to go and buy a pitchfork, vol.17, pp.0-3

, leur demande par exemple de lui procurer des documents qui prouveraient le double jeu d'une députée : Nigel Farage: I do think (.) MPs have the right to vote with their conscience (.) although Sarah Wollaston was telling us (.) in the first half of the referendum campaign that she was a Leaver! and I haven't seen (.) Sarah Wollaston's election address that was put out to the public .h in June this year I'm very keen (.) to get a copy. anyone listening who's got a copy plea:se (.) send, Dans la majorité des cas, cependant, Nigel Farage entend instaurer un dialogue direct avec les électeurs, vol.17, pp.0-4

, Tim: I can tell you now Mr Farage you are a champion of our country. and you are doing great things but what do I do about my MEP Jeff Smith (.) my MP Jeff Smith who's decided to vote remain. (.) what do I do tonight he's voted against the invoking of article fifty, Le présentateur fournit également des conseils pratiques et des actions concrètes à ses partisans, toujours pour tenter d'infléchir leurs représentants au Parlement

N. Farage, ) uh and tell him how disgusted you are uh and you make sure your local newspaper and all your local radio stations .h and and everyone you know uh you know gets the fact that that you know your MP (.) has gone against the will of the people of this country and either (.) either he gets deselected by his party o:r the constituency makes sure next time round they get rid of him and they replace him with somebody else. how about that? Tim: that's absolutely great Nigel I'm so empowered by what you've done and twenty years later I thank you for what you did to me twenty years ago (.) because you what w-what's happened now is the best thing that has ever happened to this country we're gonna move it forward and I reckoned it it

N. Farage, are the four what are the fourty-eight gonna do here are they gonna vote again for a Labour guy just gonna turn around and say no Nigel Farage: well! well I think he may have had his chips Tim and thank you for the call, vol.17

, de pression et de lobbying, continue à alimenter les discussions et apparaît périodiquement dans l'émission : Nigel Farage: but d'you know what Brian (.) I'm beginning to think and I don't want to say this (.) but I'm beginning to think (.) we may have to fight them again Brian: (.) what? the Leavers? there's gotta be a (storm) of this Nigel we've got to start fighting back Nigel Farage: we've got to start fighting back Brian! and you're in the mood to aren't you? Brian: I am definitely

, ) they're a bad lot Brian they're a bad lot I've got you on the list (.) ((he chuckles)) the first the first march I organise Brian you

. Reste-À-savoir-quand-le-futur-ici-hypothétique-deviendra and . Réalité, Nigel Farage reste idéalement vague, semble plaisanter et se refuse aux déclarations définitives 266. C'est bien ce qui semble ressortir de l'échange suivant, où la question de son retour en politique est posée

N. Farage-attende-«-le-bon-moment and ». Et-ménage-la-possibilité-d&apos;un-retour-«-dramatique, tout en étant idéalement présenté par une tierce personne comme une alternative sérieuse, la dernière solution à une situation de crise : Nigel Farage: I wonder what Shebaz in Manchester makes of all of this good evening! Shebaz: good evening Nigel when are you coming back to politics? Nigel Farage: uh we:::ll ((he chuckles)) when I'm needed Shebaz when I'm needed Shebaz you know, vol.267

, Non seulement Nigel Farage apparaît comme le « Sauveur », appelé à faire preuve d'une « action directe » (ibidem 109) en sa qualité de « représentant du peuple » ; surtout, dans sa réponse à l'auditeur (« when I'm needed »), il exhibe une forme de modestie destinée à rassurer ceux qui l'écoutent : « cette volonté de puissance n'est pas au service d'une ambition personnelle mais au service de l, Cette réponse met habilement en jeu plusieurs ethos, analysés par Patrick Charaudeau dans « Réflexions pour l'analyse du discours populiste

, Pourtant, comme Nigel Farage le remarque dans un moment de lucidité éclatant, on ne sort de l'ambiguïté qu'à ses propres dépens (nous soulignons) : Nigel Farage: I just think (.) that you go through (.) the newspapers on a day like today .h and in general (.) you know they're saying how well she's do:::ne uh °her finest hour° was written in one of the big Sunday papers .h uhm talk yes (.) about some division (.) within the cabinet but overall (.) the voice is being barely represented (.) for this is not what we voted for. .h uh and I think that whilst I may look (.) to be a very lonely figure on this (.) hey! this is not the first time ((he chuckles)) in my experience in 266 Charaudeau remarque d'ailleurs : « [i]l faut également relever les mesures que propose le populiste pour mettre fin à la crise. Généralement, ces mesures sont vagues, car il s'agit moins d'élaborer une solution pragmatique que de mettre en avant des actions qui renvoient, sortir de l'exil et porter la voix du peuple dans l'arène politique, accompagner la vague populiste et nationaliste qui parcourt l'Europe, un projet auquel il a voué sa vie politique : la possibilité semble tentante

, Au sens le plus théâtral du terme? au moment où nous écrivons ces lignes, c'est bien dans son émission devenue tribune que Nigel Farage a annoncé, le 4 juillet 2018, sa décision de revenir dans le jeu politique, « si et seulement si » le Brexit est retardé après la date fatidique de mars, 2019.

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